No.174
>>173>The only English-speakers as knowledgeable as I am about these synths are vocatwt who can die in a fire franklyIt's funny you mention this because that is the reason 39chan exists in the first place. Before the idea of an imageboard like Nanachan (which ended up becoming this site) had even been thought of i ran a small indie Vocaloid forum (18+ but safe for work) primarily intended for the old-school fans and people who knew about any other 'loids aside from the crypton ones. But it got like 3 users and died almost immediately. I've always wanted to talk to other Vocaloid fans but hated the hostility of Twitter communities/fandoms and the way Vocaloid is discussed on 4/jp/ so i passed the idea of 39chan to the current owner/host, who prior to 39chan had little experience with imageboards.
I think the reason i wanted to make it an imageboard instead of yet another forum is because there's demand for imageboards covering a single topic
(there's a thread on /jp/ right now linking to this site and i noticed a lot of people liked that 39chan's a "vocaloid" imageboard and not just another anime,vidya,random imageboard - those have been done to death) and the fact that forums are somehow more dead than imageboards. Originally when the site was launched i promoted it on sushichan and it spread through word of mouth but had it been a forum i feel like no one would have used it, especially when other more successful vocaloid forums exist.
>"I guess we're live / Not sure for how long."This announcement was made a few days before the site went public. Around 9/10 or 9/11 the site had become usable but due to an issue with IP addresses it was only open to acquaintances and friends. On 9/15 the site finally became public under the 39chan.moe domain but still had the issue with the IPs so it went down for a couple of days before officially launching on 9/19.
Since I don't host the site/own the domain (can't afford either) the site has died a few times before. Most notably on 11/9 when it went down for an entire day. But idk, as long as there's somebody hosting the site it's going to live. Long live Mikuchan indeed and sorry for the history dump.
No.176
>>173As a former 8ch user it was honestly not a bad place if you went exclusively on the boards you were interested in. I remember an art focused one which was pretty much a hangout for drawfags and it was p comfy. /miku/ was also comfy and is now hosted on Endchan.
No.177
sometimez i wonder if any big names in the vocaloid community browse this site. obviously 39ch is anonymous so without a tripcode or them directly confirming via social media that they use the site its impossible to tell. the only person who's somewhat popular who i know uses 39chan is that majin guy who makes MMD PVs for other vocaPs because he said so on twitter.
though he also said that he doesnt do it often cause the site's slow 
No.178
>>174>sorry for the history dump.I don't mind at all^^
>primarily intended for the old-school fans and people who knew about any other 'loids aside from the crypton ones.>I've always wanted to talk to other Vocaloid fans but hated the hostility of Twitter communities/fandoms and the way Vocaloid is discussed on 4/jp/ so i passed the idea of 39chan to the current owner/host, who prior to 39chan had little experience with imageboards.God bless. I'm working on an indie vocal synth wiki right now for the same exact reason (and also the fact Fandom is basically adware LOL)
I love the idea of multiple people working together to cultivate an "underground" western Vocaloid fandom that's oldfag paradise and also drama and moralfag free like the good ol' days.
>>176Ah, that's good! I've only heard bad things about 8chan and it's good to know that isn't true.
>>177I heard that majin_kz is a lurker, I think the site might be too small to have lurkers now put it's entirely possible in the future.
The longer vocatwt is unaware of this place the better!
No.183
>>182Don't think this is a good attitude. We should be working to help vocaltwt understand the old-school perspective, and it would help for this site to have an account on twitter since exclusively recruiting from other ibs isn't a great solution long term. Even if some people shun us, I'm willing to bet that a decent amount would give a place like this a chance. Maybe we have to make the "no hate speech" rule more visible?
No.184
>>183Yeah sorry anon that was rude of me.
I'm just not a fan of what the vocaloid fandom has become and it feels like newgens don't really care about vocalsynths beyond what they see in PJSK. And it's not that i have anything against PJSK itself but these people really don't care about vocalsynth culture and don't want to be educated either.
No.186
>>185it's so peak…. thank you epic games…
No.187
>>185this is 9/11 for old school vocaloid fans
No.188
>>183>and it would help for this site to have an account on twitterI disagree. I agree with the idea that recruiting from other IBs is bad though, they'll probably just ignore the "no hate speech" rule. I say let this place find people rather than the other way around, isn't there already about 500 users? Maybe encourage people to spread it by word of mouth, I talk about it to my VSynth friends all the time.
>We should be working to help vocaltwt understand the old-school perspectiveThey aren't willing to do this.
They falsely accused and harassed one of my mutuals off of Twitter over making a Koikatsu mod for Eleanor Forte, who to my knowledge doesn't even have a canon age. They also faked screenshots of one of my old mutuals saying he wants to rape his sister over a nude Project Diva mod and I haven't seen him since, I hope he's doing ok :/ Too risky. Sorry if I'm blogposting a bit.
No.189
>>188>Koikatsu mod for Eleanor ForteI'm interested
No.190
>>189Ngl im also interested in the koikatsu card/mods 😭
No.191
>>188>Maybe encourage people to spread it by word of mouthHonestly this. Just send it to friends who like vocaloid/might be interested that also aren't assholes.
No.194
>>184>it's not that i have anything against PJSK itself but these people really don't care about vocalsynth culture and don't want to be educated either. This. I never understood the whole “only make unproblematic songs with realistic tuning” attitude the fandom has, in that case why not just listen to human singers? The Japanese PJSK fandom also doesn’t seem even half as toxic.
No.195
>>194> I never understood the whole “only make unproblematic songs with realistic tuning” attitude the fandom haswhenever someone says they like weird/robotic tuning more than realistic tuning/AI vocals i always see some retard missing the entire point and going 'but they sell11!1!!! it's so much effort!!! they're easy to use11!!' as if any of those things matter in terms of what makes something sound good. at least it's better than people tuning with runs and growls every 5 seconds… but still it's like they don't understand that less is more (or the appeal of vocaloid in the first place)
No.196
>>195tbh I'd really rather not import discourse from vocatwt
I like listening to everything but prefer making realistic tuning in SynthV and it's just really weird how much everyone on there tries to moralize their personal preferences
No.197
>>196why mention the discussions if you don't want to discuss them
No.198
>>189>>190Unfortunately I'm pretty sure they bombed all their shit after the incident. Idk any social media they have other than their Discord account RIP. It was such a good mod too
No.199
>>198Cant you ask them directly there or something? I'm sure /mmd/ would appreciate it
No.200
>>199Yep I have already, although their mental health isn’t the best
(the harassment caused them to have a breakdown actually) so there’s a 99% chance the answer is no sadly.
Someone also stole their art for AI once so they might be paranoid about that as well.
No.201
>>197sorry if I worded it badly, I mean people there are always trying to start wars between robotic vocals and realistic vocals and I hope we can avoid all that.
No.204
>>202>sometimes i think about how this fandom went from listening to songs like "the straight-faced science girl" unironically and having a yandere onee-san whose entire personality is wanting to fuck len as one of the most popular UTAU characters to getting offended over songs that aren't even explicitly sexual but suggestive at best.Minors, social media, slacktivists who think gooning to yuri/yaoi/futa will help liberate the gays and probably more I'm forgetting. I don't even like yaoi yet miss fujos and will take them over the new, woke, tourist "BL fans" any day. Anime going mainstream in the West (is being Otaku socially acceptable in Japan now like it is here?) and being co-opted by the same people who hated us back in 2014 and prior didn't help either. I'm kind of paranoid Vocaloid culture will be co-opted and watered down in a similar way that anime (and K-pop) was/were seeing how much vocatwt and Stan Twitter overlap (among other things, like seeing a few English-language Kikuo interviews along with English language Billboard articles on the Vocaloid scene and Tiktok fans) :/
>this really feels like the only site with mature vocaloid fans.Facts..why I got scared during the latest outage. Vocaverse is decently mature and seems to have an older age range (since they often post where to purchase things) so there's no infighting or unfunny forced memes like the "Meme Squad" but still has the weird anti-otaku/otaku-bashing section of the fandom present.
No.206
>>204That's already been happening since the whole "miku made minecraft" thing but at least to those people Vocaloid is just miku and the other vocaloids do not exist. No one's gonna make shitty memes about Kaito because the normies only know and care about Miku.
No.207
>>202The outrage confuses me tbh, why do they hate nununu's new song but seem to love monitoring? Miku's singing about actual suggestive things in a school uniform. that's more pervy to me than mesugiku. It feels more like they just personally don't like the song and want a reason for it kek
No.208
>>204Imageboards in general have otaku roots (2ch,4chan,etc) so it's not surprising that 39chan is more respectful in that regard.
>VocaverseAlways saw this site when googling "vocaloid forums" but found its UI intimidating
(i'm more used to the phpBB/SMF forums, not a fan of Xenforo) >>207Because most western vocaloid fans don't know Japanese and won't bother reading a translation of the lyrics and the MV isn't inherently sexual or suggestive. Rabbit Hole (also by Deco) was controversial because it had Miku in a bunny suit singing about having sex and doing sexual poses.
No.212
>>207>It feels more like they just personally don't like the song and want a reason for it kekI feel this is a HUGE reason behind most social media and internet outrage nowadays tbh, for some reason people feel like they can’t just dislike things anymore. It has to be some sort of moral failing on the person/content they dislike’s part, everything they dislike has to have some sort of rapist or pedophile involved or they feel they’re “banned” from disliking it.
(Although in my opinion Nununu’s song probably seems lewder to someone who knows little to no Japanese, compare the PVs, doesn’t she ahegao a few times too in the Nununu song’s PV too? Kids also sing suggestive songs all the time too, so to normies it probably seems like a kid singing a popular song that happens to have sexual lyrics vs. an actual child doing sexual things. I feel if Monitoring was sung by an actual minor no one would mind meanwhile a real child doing the things in that Nununu PV would obviously be bad lol.)
No.219
I think you made good, privacy respecting 39chan.moe, arigatou it works without js malware.
sad thoughs: with rise of ai covers, Vocaloid religion could fade away, like horse riders fade away from roads when automobiles were invented.
So, Shine you crazy diamond! Enjoy vocaloid gigs & community,buy & sell merch, because in 2030 no one will understand what vocaloid/vocal synth is, because Ai voice be norm.
That's reminds me I wanted to buy those midi miku keyboards & guitar pedals. And thanks for all the fan arts! <3 💜
Anon
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ps
one of my fav twitch streamers from jp used miku avatar and is miku fan. He mostly streamed nice irl from shrines, temples, mountains, ocean, sunsets & sunrises. It showed me beautiful side of life. Sadly I don't (or can't?) use twitch anymore, and I forgot what's his name, and we don't have community connections outside stream chat.
No.221
>>219>AI will kill VocaloidIf anything it will revive it. Every vocalsynth these days is implementing it. The most popular voicebanks in years are Teto and KAFU which use AI.
It's ethical AI but it's still AI.
No.223
>>221Seems like they are referring to SVCs like RVC (the spongebob meme covers) and not AI tech in SVSes like Vocaloid/in general
Although Teto didn’t seem “dead”/less popular to me prior to her new voicebank in the first place..Teto UTAU originals also still come out til this day
No.224
>>223Ehh… AI technology in general cannot kill the vocalsynth scene, it can only really make it stronger. As for illegal AI voicebanks, people have been making these before RVC/SVC existed. Remember those Spongebob and Donald Trump UTAU covers from around 2016?.
No.225
>>224Ehh..I feel those are different because they are obviously unconvincing and typically done with no ill intent, no one could start a war or ruin someone's life by making a Jinriki UTAU of a politician/some random person saying slurs or pornography they didn't consent to like they can with SVCs
No.231
>>230yeah, I genuinely abandoned the mainstream English speaking internet because it is an endless ocean of dumb shit like this
No.232
>>230Genuinely wondering what’s gonna happen when they find out the artist of their “heckin’ nonbinary woobies” (v_flower and the Meikas) is a lolishotacon themselves lol
No.235
>>232Realistically no one will care. No one will look into the creator(s) of a 10 year old voicebank.
The reason this happened with Shiki Rowen's voicebank back when he was announced was due to the fact that V6 is a massive flop so anything related to it instantly gets a bad rep, some controversy involving misleading advertising (if I'm not mistaken they used SynthV for one of the trailers even though the voicebank is for V6), and the artist having a furry diaper fetish + being a lolisho and having some controversial political views, or something along those lines. I might be misremembering, never cared for Shiki.
People are attacking N_u because his song is popular and they see art or mentions of it everywhere. That's what it all boils down to. When something becomes popular there's bound to be people trying to find reasons to hate it, even if they make no sense.
No.236
>>231How's the jp side frend?
No.237
>>231Genuinely considering learning Japanese to escape them
No.248
Why do people act like Teto was some wholoid prior to SynthV? She's literally in Project Diva and I can't name a single UTAU more popular than her, yet I just saw someone claim "There were very little people who talked about her prior to SynthV" and acting like Mezmerizer is her only popular song and the only other reason she's popular are Pearto memes when Yoshiwara Lament and Teto Territory are right there.
No.249
>>248Probably because she hasn't had any super popular songs since the early 2010's so newfags see her as a wholoid. It's a similar thing with Neru/Haku, they've always been popular except the only reason people care about Neru now is because of Mesmerizer memes and Channel's Triple Ryuunen art. Prior to her SynthV the last big Teto song i remember is Nekosagi-Matter Bop in 2014, these days almost every popular Vocaloid song IS a Teto song.
No.257
It makes me so sad when Japanese companies go out of their way to cater to us just to get shit on, I’m suprised they even still do it. Most of the “xenophobia” is just shitty machine translations and I’m not sure how that’s not obvious as fuck. I dislike the response to Rosa SV’s crowdfund when Japanese fans always go above and beyond during crowdfunds, so they were probably expecting us to do the same. If the Japanese fandom was told “we’ll give you Zundamon SynthV but only if you climb 3 mountains” they would literally do it.
No.259
I hope that with TikTok getting banned and Xiaohongshu having strict rules against defamation things will calm down a bit. That or the cockroaches will spread to another platform.
No.261
I hope to one day become really good at something, i hope to earn some respect from at least a group of people
No.385
I HATE SUMMER. I HATE THE SUN. FUCK YOU SUN.
No.417
I hope everyone on 39chan is having a good day today
I’m too high to have any further thoughts
No.423
/jp/ is the only board on 4ch i actually visit but the Vocaloid threads have been slowly becoming unbearable recently (especially since Zako) and it feels like barely anyone there gives a shit about Vocaloid anymore. It's all producer-bashing and wholoid-bashing with the occasional anon that posts a decent amount of songs and new Vocaloid releases (voicebanks not songs) aren't even discussed anymore.
No.424
>>4234ch's always been unbearable for me, i haven't touched it much since i got here. 39ch is filled with actually (somewhat) sane and chill people
No.425
>>424Nah, i'd argue pre-2016 4chan was fine for the most part
No.427
>>418I can relate. Years of depression destroyed my teeth and I’ve been taking painkillers all week, and I might not even have money to fix some. Don’t be like me anons.
No.428
>>426Discord is a garbage platform unless you have your own group of friends, was it not for them i'd quit and return to TS
No.429
I hate Cloudflare
No.432
>>431Don't die or you won't live to see Lily SV
No.437
>>432Anon should also stay alive to see Pastel and Halo release
Excited for these lovely SynthV banks
No.438
>>437and possible afterglow, RAS, morfonica, and mygo SV banks! (if we're lucky)
now that i think about it there is quite an overlap of bandori and vocasynth fans
No.442
Somehow i have completely and utterly lost my sense of time…. I live in EST but i thought today was Sunday
No.443
While I respect my favorite artists’ wishes, I personally would be elated to see my art reposted on a booru or something as that means people really like it.
No.464
why do I constantly get sick …… I have covid now….. I also got the flu and norovirus recently…… fuck being human this is bullshit lmao
No.495
>>494I have a lot but one of my most recent ones was the most annoying to deal with (probably coz it hasnt been something with me my entire life)… Around 10 years ago I got chronic dry eye, it got so bad at one point that I woke up with my eyes unable to open from the sheer amount of crust. They put these lil rice grain sized things in my tear ducts which helped a lot, I need non-preservative tear drops to fully properly deal with it tho.
No.500
>>499I think some people try and share interests with the people they're interested in befriending to have them warm up to the other, but obviously this can have the opposite effect like in ur case
idk how to help but that's probably hopefully what they're doing?
No.503
>>502I do this with skateboarding vids. I'm not a skater.
No.527
I feel like my memory is basically non existent
I hope it improves
No.537
>>536FC2 is shutting down?
No.544
>>543do you think there's still a chance of anything getting lost?
No.564
Was thinking about funny stuff I did as a child but realized a lot of people involved in those situations (my aunt, my best friend etc) are dead now and that sucks. I hope everyone here is having a good day tho
No.565
>>564I feel that whenever i watch our family's old vhs tapes from the 90's and 2000's. Our family in fact has been getting smaller and smaller with time. Really sucks.
No.639
So i guess we're all here now that 4chan is kill
No.640
>>639all the stars are here
No.642
>>641I think it should stay dead
No.646
>>642I don’t know if I particularly care if it stays dead or not but there were a few good things about it like the drawthreads so it’s a bit disappointing that something like that is sacrificed
Other than that I don’t think I care though, the shitposting was extremely annoying which is what kept me away most of the time
No.663
>>652And I want to be here tomorrow, man
No.726
had a kid ask me what kind of music i like and i asked him if he knows hatsune miku, and he said "hatsune miku? like the fortnite skin?"
it's over for us
No.729
>>726He's probably doing it as a joke like how people say "Miku from fortnite" on SNS.
No.733
>>729no he seemed genuine, he's like 8
No.770
>>763it's a conspiracy to get you buy more things that you already have!
No.780
Today I did my body harm by drinking a mixture of dangerous things and now I'm paying the consequences.
No.784
Been getting headaches a lot lately, very frustrating
No.794
trying to help my friend with some legal shit and I feel so bad for him
he's been thru months of hospitalization and stuff…….
No.847
>>838nvm I wrote a letter I'm fine now!!!!! wahoooooooo